The End of the Long-Standing “Stray Remarks” Defense in Employment Lawsuits?

September 2, 2022

The Massachusetts Appeals Court issued a precedent altering decision partially centered on the long-standing defense in employment lawsuits known as the “stray remarks” doctrine. Formerly, when analyzing whether a statement could serve as direct evidence of discriminatory animus against an employer the court considered several factors. First, the court evaluated whether a decision maker was the speaker and whether the remark was related to the employment decision. Secondly, the courts looked at factors such as whether the comment was made before (having the ability to affect the decision) or after the employment decision, and the content of the remark. Previously, if those factors were in favor of the employer defendant, the courts have disregarded evidence of discriminatory remarks presented in a motion dealing with the sufficiency and admissibility of evidence, such as a motion for summary judgment.


Recently, in Adams v. Schneider Electric USA, the Appeals Court held that a motion for summary judgment awarded to Schneider Electric, in a lawsuit against a ten-year employee, released during a batch of reduction in force (RIF) layoffs should be reversed and was decided in err. In doing so, the judges held that there was sufficient evidence in the record for a reasonable jury to conclude that the RIF was proposed to carry out the larger corporate plan to target and replace its older work force. The Court determined that there was sufficient evidence of a high-level directive to replace Schneider’s older work force with younger talent “from which a jury could find that the RIF itself was tainted even if the person who selected the employees for the RIF [did so] neutrally.” As evidence of such, the Court pointed to an October 2015 e-mail in which a vice president told another employee that the company needed age diversity and younger talent. Contrary to the established Massachusetts precedent, the Court also pointed to comments made after the terminations and more importantly, not made by the Schneider employee who terminated Adams. This trampling of precedent did not go unnoticed by the Court, however. The judges reasoned that comments once considered stray and having no nexus to the employment decision, can “still be relevant to the employer’s contemporaneous thinking.” The judges continued by reasoning that any comments “made by those who have power to make employment decisions” can appropriately be considered as evidence of a larger discriminatory animus, and can no longer be dismissed as mere “stray remarks.” 


Essentially, the justices determined that even if the RIF was born from a non-discriminatory purpose, allegedly discriminatory remarks by higher-level managers can allow a jury to determine that the RIF was discriminatory from inception because of “the motives of the corporate managers,” not just the supervisor carrying out the employment decision, “should be treated as the motives for the decision.” In doing so, the majority had departed from the long-standing legal rule that “stray remarks” are insufficient to prove discriminatory bias by holding that the rule can never apply to a manager who has the power to make employment decisions. After this decision, statements from managers made after an employee is laid off could be used to persuade a jury that, although the direct actor harbored no discriminatory animus, they were “the innocent pawn of an undisclosed corporate strategy tainted by unlawful discriminatory animus.” 


This case will undoubtedly change the landscape for both plaintiff and defense employment counsel for the foreseeable future. Moving forward, it is essential that supervisory and management level decision makers are careful when discussing company-wide strategy that may impact workforce numbers. “Stray remarks,” that were once considered irrelevant and insufficient at the dispositive motion stage of litigation, are now considered to be signs of discriminatory strategy, and sufficient evidence for a jury to make a finding against an employer.  Employers, in addition to taking a second look at their own communications and language concerning RIF’s and the like, should be counseling their supervisors and managers to be mindful of their communications, even long after a RIF or other adverse employment action, because the comments made can be imputed on the employer as a whole.  Contacting your existing employment counsel at the first thoughts of laying off employees can help protect your business from legal liability and help you navigate the newly muddied water of reductions of force in Massachusetts.


For more information on this, or any other employment and labor law matter, please contact the attorneys at The Royal Law Firm LLP; (413) 586-2288. We know business matters!





By The Royal Law Firm September 18, 2025
Why this matters now. After Charlie Kirk’s killing, workers across sectors posted remarks that mocked or celebrated his death. Employers responded within hours. Some fired workers for policy violations; others suspended them pending review. ABC preempted Jimmy Kimmel Live! after affiliates refused to carry the show and a federal regulator publicly criticized Kimmel’s on-air comments. Events moved quickly, and confusion spread just as fast. The First Amendment restrains government. It does not create a job right to speak without workplace consequences. Private employers retain broad discretion, and public employers face a different constitutional test. Knowing where actual protection begins and ends will help you act quickly and lawfully. What counts as protected speech? · Concerted activity under the National Labor Relations Act. Employees who speak with, or on behalf of, co-workers about pay, scheduling, staffing, safety, or other working conditions engage in “concerted” activity. That protection covers many social-media discussions directed to co-workers or seeking to start group action. It does not cover personal gripes, threats, disclosure of trade secrets, or harassing content. · Anti-retaliation “opposition” rights. Federal and state EEO laws protect employees who oppose or report discrimination in good faith, even if they are ultimately proven wrong on the facts. Crude insults and slurs fall outside that protection; specific, work-focused complaints usually fall inside it. · State off-duty and political-activity laws. Some states protect lawful off-duty conduct or political activity outside work. New York protects many lawful off-duty political and recreational activities. California limits employer control of political activity. Colorado protects broad lawful off-duty conduct, subject to narrow exceptions. Connecticut’s statute extends free-speech protections to private employees on matters of public concern, balanced against legitimate business interests. Multistate employers should map these rules before disciplining off-duty posts. · Public-sector balancing. Government employers must apply the Pickering/Garcetti framework. Speech by a public employee as a citizen on a matter of public concern can receive protection unless it impairs efficiency or disrupts operations; speech made as part of job duties receives no constitutional protection. What does not count as protected speech? · Policy-violating speech. Private employers may discipline speech that breaches social-media, civility, confidentiality, or brand guidelines, so long as the rule and its enforcement do not infringe concerted-activity rights or a state protection. · Harassment and threats. Speech that targets protected classes or creates a hostile environment falls outside any protection and often requires prompt action. · Disclosure of confidential or proprietary information. Revealing nonpublic business information, client data, or trade secrets invites discipline and potential legal remedies. · Speech that predicts or causes disruption. Even in the public sector, officials may discipline speech that reasonably threatens operations, safety, or public trust after applying the required balancing test. How the rules apply to current events. · Kirk-related terminations. Employers dismissed or suspended workers who posted content perceived as celebrating violence or taunting the victim. In private workplaces, the analysis turned on clear policy language, the connection to the employer’s brand, and whether the post involved coworkers or working conditions. Where a post targeted protected classes, anti-harassment duties reinforced the decision. Where a post was unrelated to working conditions and did not fall under state protection, at-will principles typically allowed discipline. Public employers had to apply the constitutional balancing test and document expected disruption before acting. · The Kimmel preemption. ABC removed the show from its schedule after affiliates announced they would not air it and after public criticism from a federal regulator. Two practical lessons follow. First, business partners can force rapid action; affiliate refusals and advertiser pressure often shorten timelines and narrow options. Second, overt regulatory attention raises stakes for content decisions in media and adjacent industries. Employers should plan in advance for partner pushback and regulatory scrutiny, with ready playbooks and internal sign-offs. · Other instructive precedents. Google’s termination of an engineer over a workplace memo survived a federal labor challenge because the content did not qualify as protected concerted activity and risked discriminatory impact. ESPN suspended an anchor for tweets that violated its social-media rules, a reminder that brand and business relationships can justify discipline even when speech occurs off the clock. Franklin Templeton prevailed against a wrongful-termination suit after firing an employee whose viral conduct damaged trust and reputation. Each example turns on the same themes: a clear policy, a documented business rationale, evenhanded enforcement, and—where required—a constitutional or statutory analysis. A clean decision path for employers. When a post or clip surfaces, move in sequence and record the answers. Concerted or not. Does the speech seek to involve coworkers about working conditions or present a group complaint to management? If yes, treat it as potentially protected and consult counsel before acting. Harassment or threats. Does the content target protected classes, include slurs, or threaten harm? If yes, act under anti-harassment and safety policies. Public or private employer. If public, apply the citizen-speech and disruption balancing; if private, proceed to step four. State protections. Do any off-duty or political-activity statutes apply? If yes, analyze the statute’s scope and exceptions. Contracts and past practice. Do CBA provisions, employment agreements, morals clauses, or progressive-discipline rules constrain options, and have you enforced similar cases consistently? Confidentiality and brand risk. Did the content reveal nonpublic information or predict reputational harm with customers, partners, or regulators? If yes, incorporate that rationale into your file. Proportional response. Choose counseling, suspension, or termination based on the conduct, the role, and the risk, and issue a neutral, policy-based communication. Policy and training steps that work. Rewrite social-media, civility, and confidentiality policies with concrete workplace examples. Cross-reference complaint channels and anti-retaliation language. Add explicit savings clauses for NLRA rights and any state-law protections. Train managers to escalate issues to HR and Legal, and to avoid engaging in online arguments. Maintain a short internal script and an external statement template for high-profile events. Consistency across viewpoints reduces legal risk and public blowback. Takeaway. Citizens hold broad speech rights against the state; employees do not gain broad job rights for speech in private workplaces. Your safest course is clear policy, measured triage, and disciplined, neutral enforcement, with special care for concerted activity, anti-harassment duties, state protections, and—if you are a public employer—the constitutional balancing test. When leaders understand what the law actually protects, they act faster and with less risk. 
By The Royal Law Firm September 15, 2025
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